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	<title>Comments on: Short 40m dipole antenna, part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Joost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No not yet. But do you really mean 20m ?
I have a friend that has built a shortened 40m rotary dipole and from what he&#039;s says I can assume that I works pretty good. The problem at the moment is that I first have to finish my remote antenna switch and install the necesarry cables. I have now just 1 cable for V/UHF and one for HF. I cannot get fast on the roof to switch antenna&#039;s :-) And with current temperatures of -7 ° Celcius I&#039;d rather stays indoors...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No not yet. But do you really mean 20m ?<br />
I have a friend that has built a shortened 40m rotary dipole and from what he&#8217;s says I can assume that I works pretty good. The problem at the moment is that I first have to finish my remote antenna switch and install the necesarry cables. I have now just 1 cable for V/UHF and one for HF. I cannot get fast on the roof to switch antenna&#8217;s <img src='http://on3jt.byze.be/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  And with current temperatures of -7 ° Celcius I&#8217;d rather stays indoors&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Puah</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Puah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joost,
Have you tried the short dipole on 20m?  I live in an apartment at 16th floor (concrete with reinforce steel bar buidling) and have problems with proper RF ground and might have space to put out a dipole not exceeding 9m (end-to-end) and about 0.8 meters away from the wall.
Best regards
James Puah
9V1JP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joost,<br />
Have you tried the short dipole on 20m?  I live in an apartment at 16th floor (concrete with reinforce steel bar buidling) and have problems with proper RF ground and might have space to put out a dipole not exceeding 9m (end-to-end) and about 0.8 meters away from the wall.<br />
Best regards<br />
James Puah<br />
9V1JP</p>
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		<title>By: Joost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

I agree with your findings, the problem is that I don&#039;t have that much room. Another idea is to make a magnetic loop 3m in diameter. Still a compromise I know. But I like to play with different antenna designs.

73 Joost ON3JT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I agree with your findings, the problem is that I don&#8217;t have that much room. Another idea is to make a magnetic loop 3m in diameter. Still a compromise I know. But I like to play with different antenna designs.</p>
<p>73 Joost ON3JT</p>
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		<title>By: Mark, PA5MW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark, PA5MW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 10:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

I have had some similar trapped dipoles in the past and found:
- small bandwidth
- outside the SWR 2.0 range the efficiency drops quite substantial
- height above ground/roof &amp; other structures nearby have a great impact on SWR and bandwidth(again)

My 2x 12m95 copper wire + 450Ohm twinlead +balanced ATU worked soooo much better.

Currently I use DX-Wire from http://www.dx-wire.de, Type A wire; which is polyurethane coated copperclad steel.
It becomes invisible at a distance of only 5mtrs 
&#039;73 Mark,PA5MW
http://pa5mw.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>I have had some similar trapped dipoles in the past and found:<br />
- small bandwidth<br />
- outside the SWR 2.0 range the efficiency drops quite substantial<br />
- height above ground/roof &amp; other structures nearby have a great impact on SWR and bandwidth(again)</p>
<p>My 2x 12m95 copper wire + 450Ohm twinlead +balanced ATU worked soooo much better.</p>
<p>Currently I use DX-Wire from <a href="http://www.dx-wire.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.dx-wire.de</a>, Type A wire; which is polyurethane coated copperclad steel.<br />
It becomes invisible at a distance of only 5mtrs<br />
&#8217;73 Mark,PA5MW<br />
<a href="http://pa5mw.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://pa5mw.blogspot.com</a></p>
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